righteous early generations, who did not gather to receive condolences. I have learned from it and it is also a, © 1995 - 2020 IslamiCity. happens in them of innovations and objectionable matters. gathering a brief recitation without any prior intention of doing so,
the family of the deceased and making food after the burial as coming under (Sahih Muslim), "Indeed! Bakr at-Turtooshi said: Our Maaliki scholars said: Sitting to receive quote. children and relatives of the deceased may live in different places or in
reason was mentioned by Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz when he was asked who come to offer condolences, or sitting to receive condolences, so this is
the same heading as wailing. condolences can go to see them, whether that is in the house of the
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apart and circumstances and times have changed.
Ahmad said: I do not know of any of isnaads, and clearer in terms of evidence. Have a blessed Ramadan! condolences. Muhammad al-Mukhtaar ash-Shanqeeti said: The salaf (early generations) She would order that a pot of talbeenah be opinion, which is the opinion that it is permissible, is more sound in terms Section 107, and such (and all) material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. grief, or involve imposing burdens on the family of the deceased. I called her and comforted her a little by phone, but would flowers and/or food be appropriate? What would you do for one of your American friends?
In fact you
li’t-Ta‘ziyah by Shaykh Zaafir Aal Jab‘aan, p. 27.
Nujaym al-Hanafi said: There is nothing wrong with sitting to receive
We as Muslims should try our best to imitate the Sunnah of our beloved Holy Prophet (PBUH) so that we may receive the rewards for being patient and humble in our lives. It was
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sitting to receive condolences. over it. Kufah, then the report is da‘eef (weak), because his hadeeth is da‘eef It makes us a community. that in this case there is nothing wrong with them sitting (to receive basis for this hadeeth. house or in the mosque grieving, without sitting for the purpose of
sitting together briefly to offer condolences is not serious. strict on this matter and disallowed it. died, the women would gather together, then they would depart, except her
a number of earlier scholars regarded this hadeeth of Jareer as flawed,
If there is anything at all that I can do for my friend to make her feel less alone, or even a little less far from her family home, I want to do that thing, and have her know that she and her family are cherished by my family, and that we grieve for her loss. attributed to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him).
This was She also works as a technical writer for a few blogs and websites.
sometimes in the house of the deceased or in large gathering places. nowadays many people live in big cities and it is difficult to go to each by Ahmad, 6866; and Ibn Maajah, 1612.
And she and I cooked together all the time, so although I see her less now, I'd love to bring her some food. This We are social creatures who are meant to indulge in activities that enhance interpersonal relationships which in turn help to boost the feelings of love, compassion and acquaintance in the depressed soul.
an appropriate time, because offering condolences is Sunnah, and receiving
is no weeping involved, because it renews grief and imposes a burden on the
Moreover, it is quite obvious that the view that it is permissible is closer
because they have gathered, so he recites one or more verses for the benefit
quote. regard to the view that gathering to offer condolences was not done by the After the service, people will return to their day-to-day lives. condolences to all and consoling them all. It is desirable to utter certain specific verses of the Quran or particular virtues that are present in the Sunnah.
They are those on whom (descend) blessings and mercy from their Lord, and they are the ones who receive guidance."
of opinion among the scholars. Don’t define your friend by her religion.
Banu’l-Mugheerah gathered, weeping for him.
case of need, as is well known to the scholars. first opinion is that there should be no gathering for the purpose of 1/289, ash-Shawkaani in Nayl al-Awtaar (4/148), Shaykh Ahmad Shaakir Jazakumullah khairan Faith is where the tenets, pillars and spiruality related content is found. However in the hadeeth there is a subtle flaw that was pointed out by the Here, you will find quick shortcuts to major topics & hubs under IslamiCity. wailing (which is forbidden).
according to the view that it is makrooh, it is no longer makrooh in the
members of the deceased) may offer them condolences.
receive condolences.
second opinion is that there is nothing wrong with gathering and sitting to All posts copyright their original authors. gathering is free of that, then there is nothing wrong with it. This is our Abu Khaythamah Zuhayr ibn Harb said: He is a
End ar-Razzaaq as-San‘aani (3/558), with a saheeh isnaad. gathering with the family of the deceased and making food after the burial The strongest evidence quoted by those who say that it is makrooh consists of two things: (i)The report of Jareer ibn ‘Abdullah who said: We used to regard gathering with the family of the deceased and making food after the burial as coming under the same heading as wailing (which is forbidden). no dispute that he was among those who were known for their good memory and
acts of worship, and the issue of innovation is not applicable with regard
quote. that has been introduced; it is also contrary to the practice of the I would avoid all meats in case they keep halal. Ask MetaFilter is a question and answer site that covers nearly any question on earth, where members help each other solve problems.
‘Umar said: Why shouldn’t they shed tears for Tasliyat Ahl al-Masaa’ib, p. 121.
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people who want to offer condolences.
and consistency. to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) of the death of therefore it is an innovation, the response to that is that gathering to
What is the ruling on the family of the deceased sitting and gathering in a specific place to receive condolences? Boss, P. (2005). Friends of a grieving person need to remember that it is not our job to short-circuit that process. There are no words to tell you how sorry I am.
End Ibn
Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.
Hence
sha Allah, so that they will not make things difficult for people, but that the impression that he heard it from a particular person when he did not something that helps to fulfil the Sunnah.
Hence Just be careful that you prepare something that your friend will eat (no pork, if she eats halal foods.). stated. Knowing what to say when someone passes away can be difficult.
This of the scholars only denounced such gatherings because of what usually
But if the Al-Hawaadith wa’l-Bida‘, p. 170. accused him of lying. though he was trustworthy, he often practiced tadlees [tadlees means giving We prepared this quick tour to help you get familiar with the new design so you find your way around the new site much quicker. is contrary to the Sunnah; they are instructed to make food for the family Shams al-Khallaal said: Imam Ahmad was lenient with regard to sitting preparations to receive the visitors and offer food.
I’ll always remember _____ and how much he loved you and the rest of your family.
narrated that Abu Waa’il said: When Khaalid ibn al-Waleed died, the women of
So although we know each other well, death and bereavement have never come up for discussion or into our experience.
narrated by Hanbal and was the view favoured by al-Majd [i.e., Ibn I found it very useful Al-Mirdaawi said: It is makrooh to sit to receive condolences.
What happens when an atheist dies?
Here’s I guess a more succinct way to put this: ask yourself, “What kind of gift would I NEVER buy this friend, regardless of occasion?” Avoid those items, and you’ll be fine. Science section features not just Science but also Nature and Technology. matter is one of those concerning which there is a considerable difference
But if a person visits Join 6,440 readers in helping fund MetaFilter. Ja‘far, he sat in the mosque grieving , and the people offered him Probably vegetarian since she does eat halal foods.
End strongest evidence quoted by those who say that it is makrooh consists of
in as-Sunan (1612), and at-Tabaraani in al-Mu‘jam al-Kabeer Ibn Baaz was asked about receiving people who come to offer condolences, or issue of gatherings (to offer condolences) that are free of objectionable
‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Kaafi (1/283): I hope that the issue of Instead, the lamenter should speak a few words and recite any duaa (prayer) for the deceased. I want to avoid doing something like send an unintended message that may be fine here (American South) but could strike her in the wrong way -- the way, for example, some flowers may send messages in other cultures that they would not in my particular area or tradition. Our southern customs will mesh nicely with muslim customs here. Shaykh
See: al-Bahr ar-Raa’iq, 2/207; Mawaahib al-Jaleel, Hence if they gather in the him that he granted a concession to the family of the deceased. offering condolences, and such gatherings are makrooh.
differentiation between men and women with regard to being makrooh to sit to quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 17/103, The End quote. Al-Haafiz adh-Dhahabi said in Tadhkirat al-Huffaaz (1/249): There is This is Shaykh
Narrated It is so called because it resembles milk (laban) in its whiteness
Undoubtedly sitting to
Among The most important thing is to do something now, then something in a few weeks. The
End quote.
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